Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-174.114.213.173-20131030150611/@comment-199.119.232.232-20131030173141

I'm not sure about  valkenhayn either. At what point does, or did the timeloop start?

I know that since Saya, while possessed by Izanami, damaged the Amaterasu unit and took over Takamagahara, the timeloop has ended and everything stays the way it is and is now on a one way path.