Board Thread:New on BlazBlue Wiki/@comment-5633574-20170614110700/@comment-2188433-20170614115555

IT WAS EXPLAINED SO MANY TIMES AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS CHANGE. But okay, let's repeat it!

And it uses proper English terminology translated from the original source.
 * This wiki is primarily in English, so it should follow this rule by using the English terminology.

Do you know what transliteration is? Because I can't see anywhere on this wiki calling Grimoire as Madōsho.
 * Using the Japanese transliterations is very confusing, especially to those only familiar with the English terms. If it were in Japanese, the Japanese terms would be more appropriate, but it is not.

And again, where do we do this? In cases like "Sankishin", "Amaterasu", etc. it just has to be like this.
 * Sticking with one language and the terms it uses is better for consistency and just common sense--you wouldn't randomly throw Mandarin sentences or transliterations into a passage about various Mandarin-originated subjects, for example.

No matter how I slice it, Japanese people called it like this.
 * Many of the transliterations are awkward or grammatically improper in English. "World Void Information Controlling Organization" sounds horrible, no matter how you slice it.

Sounds, but when we translate this name, it's a nonsense, because: "Hey, let's call it a 'New World Library', but we hate being called as the 'Library'!"
 * "Novus Orbus Librarium" at least actually sounds like a proper organization name, despite the change to Latin.

And again, it's not transliteration. 爆炎 turned into "combustible", but when I think about it "Blazing" may fit better here.
 * "Combustible Witch" and "Magical Association" are other examples of names that work perfect in their mother language, but when transliterated into English sound confusing, awkward, or give the wrong idea

I can't see a problem with calling it as "Magic(al) Association", especially when definition of "association" word fits here much more than for "guild".
 * "Mage's Guild" and "Magic Guild" are far more clear than "Magic Association" or "Magical Association."

And the game has rebels and criminals, so let's just merge it into "criminal", because it's "more clear", even when it's a title for people who REBELED against the Controlling Organization. Even the page explains it.
 * what is an 'ss-class rebel' after all? 'SS-class criminal' is much more clear.

Purely subjective, because the fact I can have an opinion is bad, yes?
 * Night Vision's reasoning is purely subjective; opinion should NEVER dictate why you make a change in an encyclopedia-type website.

Good, then I think everyone will be fine when I'm going to start call Prime Fields once as Boundary Interface Prime Field Device (ooh, this name makes so much sense!), then as Dimensional Boundary Contact Prime Field Force, and then as Dimensional Boundary Interface Link, and who knows what else, because they are terms used in our version. Hopefully then nobody will feel lost or something.
 * Regardless of whether or not you think the changes are 'bad' or 'absurd' they are nonetheless the terms used in our version, and work better for our language/majority of consumers.

It is called cherry picking. Change everything, or nothing.
 * Exceptions of course being in situations like where 'Bystander' and 'Observer' are condensed into one, but a simple note on the pages would fix this.

And what? I'm just reminding we asked people if they want translations or localizations, and they choose translations
 * All other wikis dedicated to Japanese media stick with translated terms, unless there is a very strong reason for the exception (example being Phoenix Wright's wiki where Japanese names are used in unreleased media-centric pages). As mentioned, this is because it is an English database--the terms should be consistent.

What. No seriously, what? So yeah let's say it's a grimoire (magic book) because *I* feel so and it makes for *me* more sense, screw Mori and the fact he called it (not a magic) book.
 * Some of the changes mentioned are wrong in Night Vision's original post. Example: the claim that Azure Flame Grimoire is an incorrect translation because it isn't a 'grimoire.'  The original name, 'Book of the Blue Blaze' is also incorrect by this logic: as both translations make it clear that the Azure Grimoire is not a phyisical book in any form, and this is simply its name however misleading it might be.

Again: what are you talking about? Nobody uses here transliteration, you can't see here awesome articles in style: "SS-kyuu no hangyakusha is the highest rebel class and one of them is Raguna za Buraddoejji".
 * -Using transliterations leads to a slippery slope that opens the door to shifting to a wiki filled with broken English in an attempt to reconcile the differences. Examples could be using pure translations of the character's names (Raguna as opposed to Ragna or Meioh Izanami as opposed to Hades: Izanami)

And I still don't know what's the point of saying this. This page has a proper translation just as you said. If someone's going to replace this translation with Google Translate like gibberish, then don't expect that I'm going to accept it.
 * or simply posting literal translations of character dialogue on the quote pages (example: instead of Susanoo's English translation for '暮れてやるよ吸血鬼…絶対なる神の力を！' being properly translated to 'I'm going to end you, vampire… with absolute divine punishment! ', somebody would find the hard translation of "I'll be at dusk Vampire ... Absolutely power of God!" to be acceptable, or even worse: 'Kurete yaru yo kyūketsuki… zettai naru kami no chikara o!')


 * In short, the shift to translation was a horrible idea, and simply makes the wiki look disorganized, confusing, and much worse than before. It also reflects a bit poorly on the community as well.

Nothing's gonna change, it was decision of at least semi-active users. And even if by some chance we decided to change it back, then I wouldn't need anyone's help, when I have AutoWikiBrowser to change stuff.
 * I hope to see a reversion back to the previous standard---I would be happy to contribute to reverting it all as well. Because as it stands, this was not a good idea.

And Homura and Tenjou are not males, localization made it up.