Talk:Hakumen

Jin

 * They already told us that Hakumen is Jin, so the name in the character chart should be Jin Kisaragi. If you agree, then edit it. Nathan900130 08:12 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a touchy issue, but, Hakumen and Jin in the series are treated as two different characters. You don't select Jin on BlazBlue and have an option saying "Play in Hakumen mode".
 * Hakumen is Jin from a different time-loop sent into the past, and, for lack of better words, grown up into a different person in a way. He's about eighty years older than Jin, and they both exist in the same time period and thus are canonically considered different characters.
 * So, they both get their own articles. Takoto  15:26, May 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm beyond confused when it comes to this time loop thing. When I read Hakumen's page it says that Jin threw himself into the Cauldren to stop Nu and Ragna so he went back in time, and became Hakumen. So I checked to see why Nu dragged Ragna down, and on Ragna's, and Nu's page it says Noel stopped this from happening. Not only that but if Jin really did go back in time and became Hakumen, that would mean that Jin would no longer be in the story. As he was whisked away to another time. And came back. But not as Jin at all. Does that make sense? So the only other thing I can think of is, if the time loop is a separate "existance" of time within a time frame, what caused the time loop? Like the INITIAL igniter that triggered there to be a moment where noel stops Nu, and the moment where Jin goes after them himself. I hope this makes sense. Lazoraz 22:18, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * As someone who has spent the better part of his night reading up on this on the Wiki, it seems that the games unfold as such: Nu and Ragna combine to form the Black Beast in the Cauldron. One of the Cauldron's secondary effects is being able to send people to the past. So when Jin followed them in there, the Black Beast and Jin were implanted in our current Jin and Ragna's past. Rachel implants Jin into the Susano'o Unit, Jin becomes Hakumen, Hakumen and the Six Heroes slay the Black Beast, etc...of course, I've only picked up Continuum Shift II, and the storyline is one of the most difficult storylines to follow I've ever seen. Almost intentionally so.


 * Please, sign your posts using ~ . Back to the issue: Yeah, that pretty much summarizes it. However, the reason why Hakumen continues existing even after Jin changed his fate is because Hakumen, being an Observer, exists both in and out of time, meaning he is not bound to the space-time rules. GunBlazer 00:47, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Meaning of Hakumen

 * It means "White Face" or "White Mask" in Japanese.Nathan900130 20:58 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay...? If you want to add that to the article in his information you can? Takoto  06:54, May 26, 2010 (UTC)