Thread:Rizard13/@comment-9749276-20140609012355/@comment-24272331-20140609140424

I know right? That's why I really hate Relius. You mean, when the family is still happy and all? Dunno, but one thing about Relius is, he never lie to Carl(he say so himself) and in one CG in Extend, he and Carl are playing chess together(there also a woman in the back, but it's unknown if she Ada or Ignis). Maybe he actually a loving father before? It's hard to imagining it though.. :/

It's not because the others forget who "Nirvana" is, they don't know that Ada is inside Nirvana. They trying to take Nirvana because she's a nox nyctores and they thought Carl is gone mad because of her(though, Hakumen says that the owner killer intent that actually drives Nirvana).