Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-6780495-20140402113726/@comment-50.139.120.209-20150731103942

74.51.155.176 wrote: 201.8.89.77 wrote: BlueSubaruImpreza17 wrote: 74.215.124.157 wrote: Why did she get mad at ragna for. She is just a hypocrite. She tried to kill jin and noel. But when ragna hurts them she has to kill him for revenge. Why dose ragna always has to be hunted down by everyone even though it's not his fault for his misfortunes Tsubaki is not a hypocrite, she was just being brain washed and forced to kill Makoto, Noel and Jin until Jin freed her from Imperator's Curse. Then she apologized to Jin, Noel and Makoto what she done to them. In the epilogue Tsubaki was angry that Ragna injured Noel and Jin. Dood that makes her a hypocrite, Ragna lost control of his grimoire and it wasn't even his fault, Izanami did that, Tsubaki was brainwashed and attacked and injured her friends during this time, BUT she was brainwashed so it wasn't her fault, Ragna attacked his friends unwillingly since he lost control and showed to care about their well being by telling them to run. It's a similar situation, Tsubaki IS a hypocrite because it wasn't Ragna fault. Well, here's the thing. Tsubaki was raised in House Yayoi, who are ultraconservative and loyalist to the throne. She was taught, likely from birth, that "NOL = Good" and "anti-NOL = Evil". Likewise, all she really knows about Ragna are from official (or Hazama-manufacted) reports, without any real opportunity to learn otherwise. So she can't be entirely faulted for not seeing Ragna in anything other than a jaundiced perspective.

However, she isn't the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to accepting reality. She seemed to be quick to defend the NOL and the Imperator despite the actions of Makoto, who she's known for years - you know, the girl who spoke poorly about Hazama before graduation, who gave falsified orders to return to HQ despite what she had been issued (likely also falsified by Hazama), and who was willing to trust Noel to the very SS-class criminal she called "the source of all evil in the world" (I'd include pinning causing the Ikaruga Civil War on the Imperator as well, but Tsubaki was under Mind Eater at the time). Miss Yayoi needs to define her own justice before she can be of help to Jin, and not a moment sooner. There's a lot wrong here. Tsubaki's main motivation at the end of Chronophantasma wasn't for "revenge", she said herself that Noel and Jin being hurt by him was only part of it. Her purpose now is to fulfill her new promise with Jin, which is to not only defeat Ragna, but the Imperator(Izanami) as well.

Concerning the last post, the part about her being taught that anyone who goes against the Imperator is evil from her birth as well not having many oppertunities to know Ragna herself are true. However, with that said, I'm not sure what the intention of the second paragraph is? We already know she defends the NOL from Makoto as she was raised in a cultish manner to unquestionably serve the Imperator, and CP shows that this changes as she now prioritizes her friends over the poisnous values her family taught her. Which leads to her own justice being defined as well, which is, as cheesy as at sounds, to fight for her friends. Couple that with embracing Jin's "will" to defeat evil, I fail to see why she needs to "define her own justice before she can help Jin" as you say. She's already helping Jin, and I believe the main conflict for her in the next game will be if she's still willing to after she learns Ragna isn't an evil person himself.

(Also this didn't fit in anywhere, but I feel the need to point out that Makoto "entrusting" Noel to Ragna wasn't particualry a good thing considering he ended up injuring her.)