Board Thread:General BlazBlue discussion/@comment-26732688-20161112020356/@comment-8695373-20161125093200

So you'll just ignore that it was confirmed that the soul in Master Unit belongs to the Origin? You just pick details that are convenient to you and ignore everything else, it seems. I'll try to explain it one last time, even though a guy that invents new characters because he feels like it is hopeless.


 * >It is explained at the end of Centralfiction and in the Story of the World.

The end of CF confirms that the soul in Master Unit is the Origin's soul. Story of the World confirms nothing, Rachel is as cryptic as always.
 * >Ragna knew, thanks to Tenjo, that there would be a soul melded into the Master Unit (the portion that the Lynchpin "imitated" was the coffin part with the Azure symbol, referred to as "this", that contained that pre-ancient sister's soul)

No, it's the Origin's soul. Ragna called her "the Origin", "the First Prime Field". Her name in Story Mode is "the First Prime Field". Edit: forgot to add, "the First Prime Field" also told Ragna that she felt all the pain and suffering of other girls like her, which is what happened to "the Origin".
 * >and he confirmed that Noel, after fusing with all available parts of Origin (soul and body), didn't know that Centralfiction was actually Ragna himself, nor that the reason why the World would always end at that point is because he himself would meet his end.

You're right about there being one more Saya, but you're mistaken about which Saya it is. The Origin's soul is in the Master Unit. Noel only merged with the body. And despite being the Origin reborn, Noel actually is Ragna and Jin's little sister Saya, since she has a part of her soul as her clone, and merged with another part of Saya's soul and her body, by fusing with Izanami. Noel became Saya, she's just another Saya.
 * >This is also pointed out in the Story of the World on how Origin wasn't able to alter the "end", nor the "beginning", which were already written in the book. Not to mention that the Origin's dream was different from Centralfiction.

So, you think that Nine and Relius know the girl's wish better than she knows it herself? The "human world" she 'longed for' should be a part of her Centralfiction, maybe to keep her dear 'brother' alive. Let's think of a proper reason why she couldn't change the beginning or the end, instead of inventing something else that should prevent her from changing it... Each of these reasons holds some basis and sounds more plausible than "there was another girl inside the Unit, and she messed with the Origin".
 * 1) Not enough seithr.
 * 2) * The Origin lacked seithr to make the world like she wanted it to be, with only her 'brother' and nothing else, so she had to rewrite the same setting over and over again until something happened.
 * 3) Black Beast.
 * 4) * When the Origin got an ending she disliked, she destroyed the world with the Black Beast. That means, the ending is fixed: the world is destroyed by the Black Beast. Then she creates the world anew, which means that the world also starts with the Black Beast. Here's your fixed beginning.
 * 5) Takamagahara System.
 * 6) * The Origin rebuilt the world using the System. The System was built to ensure mankind's survival, so she couldn't just create a world with her 'brother' and nothing else, so she was forced to create this world by the System. Judging by the games, Takamagahara got the Azure, because it performs interventions, and if they took part in creating the world, which they did, that means that they could lock the beginning so that it will have a human world. Since they were content with watching Ragna die all over again, it seems like they could also lock the ending.


 * >What's more, Ragna figured out that the only one who would "dream" only about him, with complete disregard for everything else, would be "Saya", which is why he refers to her like that, as her dream, was a dream about her brother. The problem was that, it alone wasn't enough, as the brother would also require a world to exist upon. On the other hand, once the dream about the brother would end, the world(story) would be unnecessary and simply would end at that point.

Is that supposed to be an explanation on why she calls her "Saya"? Take a look at the cover of the first Chronophantasma Material Collection. Look at the coffin. "Murakumo No.01 Saya".


 * >In the Story of the World, it is mentioned that the "beginning" and "end" weren't enough to from a story(world),

More points to the "Takamagahara System" theory. They locked the beginning and the end, and left the rest up to the Origin.
 * >hence the Origin used her own memory, which contained information about the former world's history and events, to connect those two events through the ones she herself writes in-between.

Yet Prime Fields that were created in her world existed even before the loop.
 * >This could even be the whole reason why the Master Unit reacted to humanoid objects, as well as why, upon contact, those objects gained a soul and power of an "eye".

What can be a reason? The Origin and the loop? But it happened way after humans discovered the Master Unit.


 * >Hm ? It was some version of Saya Terumi, but she wasn't the same one as in Bloodedge Experience. There are many "Saya"s and there are many version of her, but all have some weird relationship with their brother that seemingly happens in cycles (then again everything that seemingly happens is part of the "cylce of cause and destiny").

Weird relationship? Terumi Saya just wants to get her brother's Eye and be the head of her clan. She nearly killed him twice, without showing any remorse or something. Weird, indeed, but it's not what Ragna's Saya wants.


 * >Time-wise (former world's history), look-wise, power-wise, brother-wise and all the other stuff, like the fact that she is essentially utilized to "write" Ragna into the middle of the story, in such a way that Ragna would appear the "same" at the "beginning" and "end", points her to being the closest to Saya Terumi (version-wise that is).

Terumi Saya lived after the Prime Fields were made, and after they were recognized as humans.

Tenjou also looks like Terumi Saya, maybe she is in the Master Unit! Of course, not our Tenjou, Tenjou from some another world, who travelled to past! Since her soul is suitable for Kushinada, it can also be placed inside the Master Unit! So let's ignore everything else, it has to be Tenjou from another world! This is how you sound. Of course it is very convenient to explain everything with "something from another world came and did this", but it's not right. We don't have any info about whatever happened in all the worlds aside from the three worlds we were shown, and two of them are possibilities. So please stop inventing new stuff to explain everything, it's not going to help, you'll only confuse everyone.